In this exclusive interview with PREMIUM TIMES’ Ashafa
Murnai, the Chairman of the Tipper Garage second-hand materials market, Ibrahim
Bagobiri, explained how he was persuaded to buy some items looted from an Abuja
residence of former President Goodluck Jonathan, and the reason why he is on
the run from the police.
PT: Please, you should start with an introduction.
IBRAHIM: My name is Ibrahim, popularly known as the Chairman
of Tipper Garage Market.
PT: Do you know a police officer called Sergeant Musa?
IBRAHIM: I know Sergeant Musa very well. He also knows me
for over 12 years. I know him as a good police officer who frequents our
markets.
PT: How did you enter into a business deal with him?
IBRAHIM: Thank you. It all began in 2016, I think before the
commencement of fasting period in that year. A young man approached me in the
market and introduced himself as an errand boy sent to me by Sergeant Musa.
The young man came with six sets of clothes and told me that
Musa said I should buy them so that he would take the money to him. I was
surprised to hear that, because I had never done any transaction with him
before then.
I then quickly called his line and asked him. Musa spent
time to convince me that those clothes were not stolen, but rather, they were
given to them by their Oga (former President Jonathan).
When I insisted that I would not buy, he was angry with me
that I was behaving as if I took him for a thief. He later gave the phone to a
police inspector who described Mr. Jonathan’s house to me and said I should
personally come and confirm the authenticity of their claims.
It was after two days before they convinced me to buy those
six sets of clothes. After I bought another few sets, they again invited me to
the house and took me to a room where various items in large quantity were
stored.
PT: Did you buy from that large quantity?
IBRAHIM: No. Let me take you back. Before we entered, that
police Inspector told me that they were going to take me to a particular room
where they stored a large quantity of various goods. The goods, according to
them were all distributed to them by Jonathan after they lost the 2015
Presidential election.
Immediately I entered into the room, I faced a portrait of
Mr. Jonathan, neatly placed on the wall. The nature of the room and the mere
look of that quantity of items made me to come to term with reality that they
were not the kind of items that would be given to mere security men.
When they observed how I was shocked, they said I shouldn’t
be afraid. But I looked into their faces and said, ‘Musa, even if I will become
the richest man in Nigeria through the proceeds of these items, I will not buy
them.’
That is how far my closeness with Musa went. From that time,
he began to look for other buyers.
PT: But it was confirmed that some of the items were sold at
your market, Tipper Garage.
IBRAHIM: You are correct. When I stopped buying from those
security men, they then went round and sourced for another buyer. But when I
warned all our members that they should be wary and stop buying those items,
they all stopped. That might have been the reason why such items were believed
to have been sold at some other markets.
PT: Why didn’t you take action when you suspected that those
items could not just be mere gifts from Mr. Jonathan?
IBRAHIM: You don’t know me, that is why you asked me this
question. You know if you are dealing with the police, especially at crucial or
questionable circumstances like the one involving selling of such items, you
have to be very careful and cautious.
But let me tell you, I’m a man of integrity, no doubt about
it. Even all the DPOs (divisional police officers) posted to Gwarimpa in the
past 12 years can testify to this. We don’t buy stolen items in our Tipper
Garage Market. We have a committee with a mandate to scrutinize any item
brought to our market for sale, especially second-hand items.
On numerous occasions, I personally handed suspected thieves
together with the stolen items to the police at Gwarimpa Division. All those
police men in the division are very much aware of how we assist them to catch
suspected thieves who brought stolen items for sale.
PT: Why then are you now at large?
IBRAHIM: I disappeared not because I’m afraid. It is because
of the shame attached to the purchase of stolen items, which I did unknowingly.
Everyone knows me very well that part of our rule in that market is that for no
reason anyone should buy stolen property.
If we discovered some items brought to us are stolen, we
apprehend the suspect and handed him to the police. You can go to Gwarimpa
Police Division and confirm this. I have learnt a great lesson in my life not
to trust anyone from the surface.
Look how they ripped the house apart...
I'm sure they had plans to bulldoze the walls and sell the blocks, but they got caught.
Well, at least we now know that stealing is not corruption.
Jonathan sef don talk am tayah.
Jonathan sef don talk am tayah.
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